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  1. Yeah, my first impulse upon recently hearing the issues with the project was to lose more faith and join a thread grousing about the situation.

    But I realized, that won't help at all. And decided to take a different tack.

    It's really quite amazing what a small, volunteer team has so far accomplished.  And I have enough faith that David, and team, want to see this through, that in all likelihood, we'll at some point have a decent product to mess around with.  So I decided I wanted to help in some way, not just sit on the sidelines.  Hopefully more will join me, and like I said before, it doesn't have to be financial, there are other ways to help.  Cheers.

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  2. On 3/18/2022 at 9:18 AM, Ed Minchau said:

    By all means, sure, money will help. However,  no amount of money will help when the FPGA used for VERA isn't going to be available anywhere in the world until September. Unless you raise a few billion to start up a chip fab, we're going to have to wait.

    Again, I made zero mention of timeline.

  3. On 3/18/2022 at 8:21 AM, Ed Minchau said:

    Right now, money isn't the issue, though the team definitely needs to be reimbursed for what they've spent.

    Right, somehow in the last 7 months, the money issue just went away, magically...  gotcha.  Sorry, this response isn't just to you, it's to anyone saying money isn't the issue.

    My call is this:  Do something to help push the project toward success.  If you can't help with the hardware or software, then join David's Patreon for $1 a month, or just Paypal him 5 bucks.  Let's hit it on all fronts.

  4. I'll add, this isn't a software project, it's a hardware project (and yes, before you point out the obvious, of course it also involves software, but let's focus, k?)

    And hardware boils down to money. Getting it made requires more than sitting at a desk typing and clicking "commit".

    If you think that money (or lack thereof) doesn't affect the other issues, then I'd say: think deeper.

    So yeah, I'm seeing that the project is having trouble, and from my position all I can do is try to help alleviate some factor, the money factor.  Will my $50 ensure success?  Of course not.  But I'm willing to take that risk.

    (edit: the above is meant in general, not a specific response to the posts above)

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  5. On 3/18/2022 at 7:11 AM, Yazwho said:

    If no one is going to take an income from it then it should definitely be 'Non profit', for the tax and licensing breaks at the very least.

    As you can see from the recent posts financing isn't the problem. It appears to be a mix of technical and managerial problems.

    Of course supporting content creators is a good thing, but dont think sending money now will hurry up this particular project.

    Where did I say "hurry up"?  I said "successful outcome", I made no mention of timeline, you're inferring that, incorrectly.

    As far as "financing isn't the problem", I'll include the text from the post I linked:  (the bold emphasis is mine)

    Regardless of whether a crowd funding platform requires something or not, I have a reputation of integrity to uphold.  The last thing I want is people saying that the 8-Bit Guy took their money and didn't deliver on a promise.  However, I have been considering doing some sort of crowdfunding where it would literally just be asking for donations to keep this project alive.  An infusion of $20,000 with no requirement to repay it would go a LONG way to pushing this product out to the public.  $100,000 would guarantee a successful launch.   But that's a lot to ask.  I know there are several thousand people interested in this.  If everyone just donated $5 that would probably be an incredible help.

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  6. Recent events got me to thinking: "How badly do I want to see a successful outcome of this project?"  There's different degrees and definitions of what success would look like, but David in this post asked for money to get it done:

     

    I, for one, would argue, that this board/site is populated by the die-hardest among X16 fans.  So here's my call to put up or shutup.

    The recent discussion around what platform to host this board brought out some promises of money for that, I call on you to divert those funds to David.

    David's patreon is: https://www.patreon.com/8BitGuy1
    (at his highest level - $20/month - you can have a direct 15 minute conversation with him)
    (but $1/month is also an option! And 3 other tiers besides that)

    Or, as he details in: https://www.the8bitguy.com/how-to-donate/,
    Direct donations can be made via Paypal to dfwgreencars@gmail.com, (he asks to put a note in the description or send him an email explaining the donation.)

    For myself, I've just sent $50 via Paypal, and will evaluate later sending more.

    So, how badly do you want it?

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  7. On 1/22/2022 at 2:30 PM, hardrockhero said:

    Dude that is a well put together online learning tool

    Yeah, he did a great job.  I enjoyed it very much.  And once you're familiar with all that, it's a short jump to playing with the C64 or any 65xx system, if you like, or just right into the X16.

  8. Well, 1, I wasn't giving him anything that needs a "break", I've actually been a vocal defender of David's, especially around the paperclip thing.  And 2, I'm not talking about him financially supporting the site, I don't care if he pays for it or not.  And I think disdain is appropriately used, and I did say *borderline*.  it just doesn't make sense to me.

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  9. On 1/7/2022 at 7:28 AM, Ender said:

    Thanks everyone for stepping up! I was a little worried after I saw David's post the other day, but it looks like we'll be around for a while yet!

    I still am really baffled by David's borderline disdain for this site.  The consolidated software library with emulator seems like it will/would boost the X16 in a big way.  /shrug

  10. Nostalgia is of course a big factor.

    But the other factor is fun, it's fun to develop on 8 bit stuff.   Modern stuff can be fun to some extent, but it's a lot more like work, in my opinion.

    I'd compare it to R/C modeling.  Building and operating your remote/radio control airplane/car/boat is a lot of fun.
    As opposed to building or restoring a full size plane, car or boat.  Yeah, there's some fun there, but also, A LOT of work.

    Not a direct comparison of course, but pretty similar I'd say.

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  11. On 10/14/2021 at 8:13 PM, Oldrooster said:

    I came here after noticing that the project I was ALREADY working on

    So you're talking about your My Sharona computer in the first person, rather than third person now?

    So let's see it, surely you could take a video of it working in some respect.  And no, I won't stop calling you Shirley.

    If it's still in the design phase, or even if it isn't... why again would David be interested, when he's got a product almost ready to release?

    But irrespective of David's interest, I'm sure folks here would be interested in what you've got, I'd suggest a post in the "non C16" area of the forum.

    I'm even confused on what processor you're going with... 6502 or Z80?  Or were you going to do a discrete soldered version of a bespoke processor?

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  12. On 10/11/2021 at 8:18 AM, Calculon said:

    Just to repeat for clarification: “once every couple of weeks” is not a post from one of the project members. It’s a random person with a question, or an idea, or a link they want to share, etc. Exactly the kind of thing that gets posted here multiple times *every day*. You’re not missing enough to worry about. It’s not “VAST”. It’s tiny.

    That's fine, but the rest of what I said still applies.

    Eh, I was gonna say more, but I just don't care anymore.

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  13. On 10/10/2021 at 11:57 PM, Calculon said:

    The Facebook group has gotten much quieter over the past year.  The vast majority of activity regarding the project happens here, at this point.  I'd estimate a new post (by anyone, not just a project member) happens once in a couple of weeks.  Occasionally David will reply to a post, and it will reveal some new detail of their plans, but it isn't anything like a formal "announcement".  That's how we found out that they were planning to make the X8 more like the X16, recently.  Just a one-liner reply.  He also recently posted a short video showing the low-end keyboard.  But that didn't really reveal anything earth-shattering, either.  Plus, anything interesting ends up getting shared here by someone, within a few days.  So honestly, I don't think it's worth worrying about.  There is no need for FOMO when it comes to the Facebook group.

    It doesn't have to be earth shattering to feel like 2nd class.

    A video about the keyboard?  That would be interesting to anyone following this project, yet no post here.  Even more disappointment and demotivation there.

    A "new post every couple of weeks" would be a VAST improvement over what gets communicated here currently.

    This project had the potential to grab some kind of foothold, or niche, but for me, my interest in it has come way down.  This now holds little more interest for me than any other 8 bit project you can name, and there are quite a few.

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  14. Thank you @Lorin Millsap for your message.

    Speaking only for myself, the dearth of messaging *here* about this project is a significant demotivator.

    In his video(s), David @The 8-Bit Guy implored his audience to develop software for the platform, that that would be the greatest area of help.

    So one would assume that this site (all of commanderx16.com) would be the central clearing house of software, but also of information about the project.

    Consistently having to hear 2nd or 3rd hand new information is disappointing and demotivating. (Facebook seems to be the primary source)

    If David doesn't read this message I'm asking if you and/or other team members could impress upon him the need to change this.  Facebook could continue to be his touchstone with youtube 8-bit guy channel fans, but anything CommanderX16 related should be communicated here, and Facebook posts could be used to point those users here, for that information.

    Not everyone uses Facebook, but everyone *can* pull up a website.

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